--- title: "Reducing Early Attrition: How Contact Centers Can Build a System Where New Hire Retention is the Rule" description: Discover strategies to enhance new hire retention in contact centers through improved work design and the Five Pillars of a Frictionless Workforce. image: https://resources.benchmarkportal.com/hubfs/174%20-%20Zizo.jpg --- - [My Account](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/my-account/edit-account/) - [Upcoming Courses](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/upcoming-contact-center-certification-training-courses/) - [Discover](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/discover-us/) - [Store](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/store/) - [Contact](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-benchmarkportal/) [![bmp-logo-source-below](https://resources.benchmarkportal.com/hs-fs/hubfs/bmp-logo-source-below.png?width=196&height=64&name=bmp-logo-source-below.png)](https://www.benchmarkportal.com) - [BMP ConneX](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/bmp-connex/) - [Tier List](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/bmp-connex-tier-list/) - [Case Studies](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/bmp-connex-case-studies/) - [Benchmarking](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-benchmarking/) - [Benchmark Your Center](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/benchmark-your-contact-center/) - [Top Contact Centers Contest](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/top-contact-centers-contest/) - [iBenchmark](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/ibenchmark/) - [Industry Reports](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-industry-reports/) - [Certification](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-certification/) - [Assessments](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-assessments/) - [Training](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-training/) - [Management Certification](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-manager-training-certification/) - [Supervisor Certification](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-supervisor-training/) - [Quality Assurance Certification](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/call-center-quality-assurance-training-certification/) - [Workforce Manager Certification](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-workforce-manager-training-certification/) - [Coaching for Performance](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-coaching-for-performance/) - [Agent Certification](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/call-center-agent-training-certification/) - [Agent Soft-Skills](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-agent-soft-skills-training/) - Learning Chanel - [Call Center Learning Channel](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/call-center-learning-channel/) - [Call Center Learning Channel Plus](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/call-center-learning-channel-plus/) - [Resources](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/resources/) - [Publications](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-publications/) - [Mastery eBook Series](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-training-free-downloads/) - [Blog: Articles & Tips](https://resources.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-articles) - [Blog: Agent Voices](https://resources.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-articles/topic/agent-voices) - [Books](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-books/) - [White Papers](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-white-papers/) - [Research Reports](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-research-reports/) - [Glossary of Terms](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/glossary-of-terms/) - - [CallTalk Radio Show](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/calltalk-radio-show/) - [CallTalk Archives](https://resources.benchmarkportal.com/calltalk) - - [News](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-news/) - [Contact Centers and COVID-19](https://resources.benchmarkportal.com/covid-19) - [Press Releases](https://resources.benchmarkportal.com/news/tag/press-releases) - [Testimonials](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-videos/) - [Videos](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-center-videos/) - [Partners](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/partners/) - [FAQ](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/faq/) - - [Discover Us](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/discover-us/) - [Contact](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/contact-benchmarkportal/) - [About](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/about-benchmarkportal/) - [Our Team](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/our-team/) - [Career Opportunities](https://www.benchmarkportal.com/career-opportunities/) Search ... # Reducing Early Attrition: How Contact Centers Can Build a System Where New Hire Retention is the Rule Every contact center leader knows the pattern. You hire strong, invest in training, and watch too many good people leave before they ever hit their stride. ZIZO Founder and CEO Jimmy Chebat, author of The Engagement Architecture, says the problem isn't your people. It's the way the work is designed. In this episode of CallTalk, Jimmy joins Bruce Belfiore to reframe attrition as a design problem leaders can fix. He explains why the first 60 days decide whether a new hire stays, how a changing labor market rewrote the rules of retention, and how to tell real reinforcement infrastructure from feel-good perks. He also walks through the Five Pillars behind a Frictionless Workforce and where a leader should start. --- Date: Tues., Aug. 11, 2026 Host: Bruce Belfiore | CEO & Senior Research Analyst | BenchmarkPortal Guest Speaker: Jimmy Chebat Season: 16 | Episode Number: 2 --- Full Show: --- ![Jimmy Chebat](https://resources.benchmarkportal.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Jimmy%20Chebat.jpeg?width=235&height=235&name=Jimmy%20Chebat.jpeg) Guest: Jimmy Chebat Jimmy is the startup founder of ZIZO Technologies and a serial entrepreneur.  With over 20 years of experience launching companies and after starting and selling several call centers, Jimmy embarked on a mission to change call centers by increasing employee engagement, motivation, and productivity.   --- **![faculty-bruce-belfiore-4sm-1](https://resources.benchmarkportal.com/hs-fs/hubfs/faculty-bruce-belfiore-4sm-1.jpg?width=184&name=faculty-bruce-belfiore-4sm-1.jpg)CallTalk Host: Bruce Belfiore | BenchmarkPortal** Bruce Belfiore is a frequent speaker at industry events in the United States and abroad. 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